Dear Ian and others,
Thanks for the opportunity to participate and to read these insightful posts. It’s an innovative way of doing a progress paper and both the paper and posts have referenced many sources I would like to read. What follows is some fairly specific comments on the paper (not the posts), which is all I could do at the moment.
I’d like to start by commending Ian on a wonderful paper. I like the writing style and I think it works very well to take the argument through hooks, Heldke and Duruz (among others). I appreciate the generous manner in which you’ve folded together these differing arguments. The movement in Lisa Heldke’s text from adventurer consumer to neighbour is important to recognize as is her unquestioned beginning with hooks and ending without her. (That’s also been the way my ideas have progressed through the papers cited on the blog.) Equally, the points you highlight from Jean Duruz about people’s fragility and their positions as food colonialists and anti-colonialists are great. Citing Catherine Nash’s suggestion that we need to find ways of engaging with bodies is also very helpful. There was a great paper on this subject by Jessica Hayes-Conroy and Allison Hayes-Conroy at the AAG this year.
I very much like the place you seem to end up (though you claim you have no conclusions). Then, you ask whether you’ve called for research that someone’s been doing for years—but have you called for research in certain areas? I might have missed this. In answer to your other questions about appropriate balance, underplaying, contradictions and denial, I would answer no.
I don’t think it’s still bloody mainstream at all to raise the points you do. I take Lynn Phillips’ point that some privileging has occurred in academia and certainly among the press, foodies, slow food etc. towards consumption and subjects who can. But I think you are making much larger arguments about identity, race and politics and it’s not just an overview of scholarship on what gets eaten by those who can.
And on the term ‘mainstream’, it’s unclear that you are not convinced by the term mainstream until the end. It seems an unnecessarily derogatory gesture to label some as mainstream when you’re otherwise so gracious.
Like some you cite, I first advocated reflexivity and decolonizing of the self/white organization and in collective action when I began writing about race and food. That is, I talked about my own efforts at anti-racist food change and of the ways that nonprofit organizations involved in this work might change the ways they think and act. Anyway, I think that desire to decolonize the self may be a starting point for some (many?) critical people engaging with questions of race in the US. It’s certainly what is encouraged by the anti-racist activism that I’ve been exposed to (I’ve written about this in an Acme paper coming out soon) and one could argue it’s just a liberal, individualistic response. While listening to white members of a local group trying to engage with racism and food, I kept hearing white people say we need to own up to our privilege. They were completely individualizing this owning up. An African American activist, on the other hand, is always talking about the interpersonal.
But one could also say efforts at reflexivity are a pathway toward, for instance, where Heldke ended up in her book. For all the criticisms we might level at people trying to change their consumption practices individually or collectively, it’s important to me, from a political and theoretical position, to acknowledge the fraught, fuzzy and fragile nature of these positions and the connections made through food and in foodspace. I’ve been trying to do that while admiring the work of those who have been very critical of the liberal, wealthy whiteness of alternative food and of various politics of consumption (e.g. Allen, Guthman, DuPuis, Freidburg, Bobrow-Strain). I tend to agree with these critiques but find there’s more to say.
I am not sure what you mean about beginning or not beginning with the quote you’ve put towards the end about tortillas as chapattis. What are you getting at there? I don’t remember your previous review well enough to understand what you’re saying here.
Cited
Allen, P., 2004. Together at the Table. University Park, The Pennsylvania State University Press.
Allen, P., Fitzsimmons, M., Goodman, M. and Warner, K., 2003. Shifting plates in the agrifood landscape: the tectonics of alternative agrifood initiatives in California. Journal of Rural Studies 19, 61-75.
Bobrow-Strain, A. (2008) White bread bio-politics: purity, health, and the triumph of industrial baking. Cultural Geographies 15(1), 19-40.
Dupuis, E. M. and Goodman, D., 2005. Should we go ‘‘home’’ to eat? toward a reflexive politics of localism. Journal of Rural Studies 21, 359–371.
Freidburg, S. (2003). Cleaning up down South: supermarkets, ethical trade and African horticulture. Social and Cultural Geography 4(1): 27-43.
Freidberg, Susanne, 2004. French Beans and Food Scares: Culture and Commerce in an Anxious Age. Oxford, Oxford University Press.
Guthman, J., 2004. Agrarian dreams: the paradox of organic farming in California. Berkeley, CA, University of California Press.
Hayes-Conroy, J. and Hayes-Conroy, A. (2008) Political food, ecological bodies: why the visceral matters for food based social change, paper presented at the Association of American Geographers' Annual Meeting.
Monday, August 11, 2008
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Hi Rachel
I should have posted this reply ages ago...
To answer your question at the end of your post, part of what I was calling for - or wondering about - in the 'mixing' review was work on food / ethnicity / multiculture that doesn't involve hooks' 'eating the other' argument, just to see what that might look like.
It seemed to me that that argument had dominated the literature since the early 90s... and had become an 'obligatory point of passage' in this kind of work. Sometimes, it seems that this is an argument looking for a illustration - see Danny Miller's (1998) 'virtualism' argument - and I haven't seen any major critique of it in print - although Phil Crang gave a seminar paper in 2004 that does this. I'm wondering where we'd end up politically and theoretically working right through and/or bypassing hooks...
The example at the end of the paper was in that food / ethnicity / multiculture ballpark, but is - I think - impossible to interpret as straightforward other-eating. So, what happens when we start in places like this, rather than - for me in the context of the mixing review and probably my own work to date - in places where hooks' arguments help to decide what to study, because things sort of fit already? That's Jon Goss' (2006) and Karen Bakker Gavin Bridge's (2006) critique of this work, I think.
I'm trying to get myself out of this habit by doing new research on commodities that choose me to study them - in a way - like prescription medicines (see Cook et al 2007). 'Eating the other' and (non)food boundary issues are some of the pigeons. Hydrocortisone is the cat... Strangely, this relates to Emma and Henry's recent posts about missing animal geographies: as hydrocortisone was initially extracted from cows' adrenal glands for human use, then chemically synthesised using yams (and/or sweet potatoes), and is now biosynthesised using alcohol and yeast cells modified with human and other genes. Then there's the US civil rights issues at the heart of the drug's history, its manufacture helping to fund the struggle in the 60s...
Having said this, I'm a bit nervous of saying that that work starting elsewhere and maybe even ignoring hooks' work doesn't exist - as posts to the blog have shown - given that my literature search for the 'mixing' review focused on work that had cited hooks! There's an element of self-fulfilling prophesy, here, maybe? Something like that... I wonder how many of us have been on the same journey as Lisa Heldke, through this literature and - maybe - out the other side... agreeing with it but wanting so say more, like you say...
As for calling for work that people have been doing for ages, that's just nerves, too... about missing a) important work in what you imagine are supposed to be a series of overview-type Progress papers, and b) the kinds of holes in the literature you think you're supposed to spot and ask to be filled. When Roger Lee asked me to write these reviews, I replied saying that I'd find that kind of review difficult to write, and asked if 3 reviews with the style, content, process and authorship shown so far would be OK. He was happy with this, but I guess I was still left with what I thought I should have done in the first place...
Agreeing with critiques but finding that there's more to say... I like this! Seems to be the spirit of the blog...
Ian
References:
Bakker, K. & Bridge, G. (2006) Material worlds? Resource geographies and the ‘matter of nature’. Progress in human geography 30(1), 5-27
Cook et al, I. (2007) Citizenship, kinship, thingship: hydrocortisone relatedness. Presented in the ‘Spaces of belonging’ session at the AAG Annual Conference, San Francisco (April ‘07)
Crang, P. (2004) 'The Indian restaurant in London and Mumbai.' Paper presented at the 'Food and Mobility' symposium, Centre for Mobilities Research, Department of Sociology at Lancaster University, November.
Goss, J. (2006) Geographies of consumption: the work of consumption. Progress in human geography 30(2), 237-249
Miller, D. (1998) Conclusion: a theory of virtualism. in Carrier, J. & Miller, D. (eds) Virtualism: a new political economy. Oxford: Berg, 183-215.
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